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Episode Title: Steven Pooniverse
Episode Count: 110
Run Time: 2:17:41
Host(s): Cody Baier, Max Vader, Andrew Erickson
Executive Producer: Sean Russell

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Steven Universe

Sometimes, when some things get an oppressive amount of buzz, The Other Side just has to check it out. And sometimes, when they do, their misery becomes your entertainment. This is one of those times. After seeing the fervor and cult-like devotion toward Cartoon Network’s Steven Universe, the boys at The Other Side would be fools not to see what the hype was all about. Even several members of Anime 3000 have sung this show’s praises! Now, find out why The Other Side really is the only show on the network you can trust, as the boys from TOS utterly dismantle the series, and prove that Steven Universe is demonstrably terrible!

 


Important Links

Steven Universe on Cartoon Network

Max’s Steven Universe Parody #1

Max’s Steven Universe Parody #2

Steven Jewniverse

 


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As stated at the top of the show, the views expressed by the crew of The Other Side do not necessarily reflect the views of Anime3000, it’s partners or affiliates as a whole. Feel free to share your thoughts in the comments if you disagree or agree with the points of view expressed on the show.

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The ever-controversial shock jock of Anime3000, and host of The Other Side (alongside Andrew Erickson and Max-Vader), and frequent guest on the A3K Podcast. Blunt, unfiltered, and politically incorrect, Cody's podcast appearances are not for the thin skinned. And be sure to check out his 90's cartoon throwback comic, Cloudscratcher!
  • Since the links I provided are not in the show notes, here they are:

    Max’s Steven Universe Parody #1
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDTI3ToemeA

    Max’s Steven Universe Parody #2
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a92GwkIlOCc

    Steven Jewniverse
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H98Q9VU6IEM

    • Since you are not going to invite me to your stupid little party, I just won’t go….

  • Spicy Shino

    Wow you guys are dicks. I know everybody doesn’t like the same thing, but why did you constantly rant about Tumblr? And would your reaction be half as bad if it wasn’t for your feelings against that mentality? Cuz when I go to a link bashing a show I like, I expect them to bash THE SHOW. While your issues with the characters/music are understandable that seemed like less than half of your argument.

    • Kerberous

      “Wow you guys are dicks. I know everybody doesn’t like the same thing, but why did you constantly rant about Tumblr? ”

      Did you seriously just come here to defend tumblr from people who perfectly described your whole butthurt statement before you even typed it? The irony.

      • Spicy Shino

        I’m not defending Tumblr, personally I don’t spend enough time with it to truly understand everyone’s issue with it.
        I’m simply pointing out that their own opinions are pretty fucking biased, and they might not have hated the show so much if they weren’t constantly obsessing over Tumblr propaganda. The few parts they didn’t have a problem got swept under the rug because Tumblr’s butthurt and “it isn’t organic.”

        [EDIT] How did me complaining about this pod cast spending what felt like half of it’s time complaining about FANS/SUPPORTERS of the show instead of THE SHOW itself, as defending Tumblr?

    • tccboss

      Yes, let me taste those tears

      • Spicy Shino

        They said my show is shitty and I just can’t bear with it!

        Happy now?

    • Max-Vader

      “And would your reaction be half as bad if it wasn’t for your feelings against that mentality?”
      Yes. The writing is atrocious, the characters are either boring, annoying or monsters and the animation is laughably bad. None of these are directly tied to it’s stupid politics, though they are partially a result of them since that seems to have been the focus for the creators.
      “that seemed like less than half of your argument.”
      Emphasis on “seemed like”. We spent most of the time directly talking about the character and writing fuck-ups and mentioned tumblr mostly in reference to the mentality of it’s creators and the agendas it pushes.

      • Spicy Shino

        To be fair I started typing because the first 30 minutes felt like Tumblr this Tumblr that, so my opinion may have been a bit skewed. But that doesn’t change the fact that it felt like the “Agenda” held more weight than the show itself and any decent parts of the show instantly became inconsequential.

        But I guess I should be happy I liked the show before the Tumblr explosion. Considering how hard Tumblr has been pushing the show, I can’t be overly upset that it influences people’s opinion of the show.

        I admit the art was a bit off-putting when I started the show, but I grew to like it and I personally like the show’s writing. tbh if you’re watching SU for the plot it’s probably not going to be your cup of tea, because the main draw for a lot of people is the characters. And if you hate them (which you clearly do) the entire experience will drag on and torture you as they’re constantly thrown in your face with very little to distract you.

        But thanks though. While I don’t agree with you, I’ll be a bit more cautious before singing the show’s praises.

        • This show has no decent parts. Also thanks for admitting to fanboy rage and firing off a bitchy comment barely halfway into the episode.

          • Spicy Shino

            And yet it’s gained a sizable following.

            Yeah that’s not the best of criteria, but since it’s one of the few examples without shirtless dudes, that deserves the benefit of the doubt.

            [BTW] I said “started” typing. I wouldn’t have posted it if I didn’t still feel that way at the end of the podcast. My opinion has simply shifted to probably 2 thirds. And you specifically stated there were things you’d give the show credit for if they were “organic”. And if calling you a dick counts as a bitchy comment I regret not going out of my way to earn the title.

          • Kerberous

            “Yeah that’s not the best of criteria, but since it’s one of the few examples without shirtless dudes, that deserves the benefit of the doubt.”

            Umm, there are plenty of popular and good cartoons out there without shirtless dudes. And what are you even talking about? I’ve seen fanservice harems that are not as lewd as Steven Universe. Did you even see the show or listen to the podcast from start to finish?

          • Spicy Shino

            I thought it was obvious I was referring Twilight/5Shades (other “popular” franchises generally considered to be sub-par). And to be frank SU isn’t lewd it’s suggestive. Unless the Gems start undressing , that comment is a gross exaggeration.

            While it is true Gem fusion was depicted in a sensual manner, it’s also done by a race with no concept of age or gender (or physical fucking bodies for that matter). So to regard it with the same moral/social implications as human intercourse is about as misguided as equating an action with a metaphor.
            It’s like the difference between “Their bodies glistened with passion as they twirled and glided across the stage,” and “They stepped on stage and proceeded to fuck each other’s brains out.”

            For people so livid with SJWs blowing small issues out of proportion, your outrage seems pretty damn hypocritical.

          • Aythya

            I judge this show by the standards of a kid’s cartoon, so while I’m not going to say “kids shows can’t have ‘suggestive’ pieces’ I think that the defense of “they’re a race with no age or gender” is not one that will hold up. Children, the children this show is intended for, probably can’t fully grasp the idea of “someone is a woman but not”. The gems, for all intents and purposes, are women. To top it off, a lot of children go through a phase where they VERY STRONGLY hold on to “gender norms”, it’s a commonly noted and accepted phase. I can bring up a host of examples both from my life and others’. I really can’t believe that an age group that still says “No, I can’t play with dolls, they’re for girls!” or “No, I can’t wear that shirt, it’s for boys!” can understand “These people who look like women, they sound like women, and they have the gender identifiers of women, but they’re not actually women OR men! It makes sense!”

            Also, am I *literally* the only child who didn’t catch every minute of every show I watched as a kid? All they have to do is miss when this is explained in the show and, boom, the kid has absolutely no reason to not think they’re chicks.

          • Spicy Shino

            That’s true. But my point was that Fusion =/= Sex because while they are similar their place in their respective societies seem quite different due to notable physical differences and their inherent purposes.

            While I can understand why some would see it that way, I can’t help but feel gem fusion is more an embodiment of the relationship between 2 or more gems than a sex alternative.

            [EDIT] I should probably learn how to better get my point across, cuz it seems like most of my replies are “No I’m not saying/doing X, I am simply stating Y”

          • Aythya

            I mean, fusion isn’t *literally* sex, but that one fusion between Garnet and Amethyst was pretty off. It does seem to be highly related to the relationships between characters, and they’re so oddly sensual, it’s pretty significant and off-putting, at least to me. And with the way I’ve seen fans get into it it just starts being really…gross?

            (Now, to start arguing about the perceived sexism, racism, and other issues I have with the show! This comment section will never eeeend!)

          • Spicy Shino

            Well it was pretty sexual, so you have full right to be uncomfortable with that.
            But when you say “the show!” are you referring to the cartoon or this podcast?
            If it’s the latter, I honestly wasn’t surprised. The disclaimer was a bit of a red flag.

            [EDIT] Geez my grammar was atrocious in this one!
            “so you full have right,” I don’t think I’ll ever live that down.

          • Aythya

            I’ve been on multiple episodes of TOS as a guest host, I’m dating Cody, and I’m good friends with all the other guys. If I actually thought they were sexist or racist in the slightest I wouldn’t be here. So, yes, I mean Steven Universe. =)

          • Spicy Shino

            Fair enough but could you elaborate a bit? Cuz I don’t really see it.

          • Matto

            I don’t really know how more elaboration Ducky, Cody or the others can give you because they have gone into so much detail already. In all personal kid, you have said your statement and if you want to continue it, fine, but trying any attempt to make them understand that Steven Universe is better then it sounds is a fools errand.

            Anyway, about this episode, you guys didn’t let me down. Since we don’t get CN in Canada-Land here and going by what happened on the AFTER forums thread for this show, just hearing all the rancid details made me decide what this show is.

            It is like a Disney cartoon back in the late 90s that shoved those life lessons down our throats, only it’s created by a Social Justice shill and her writing staff who can’t understand basic human decency. Fuck sake, I admitted to having mild autism and just hearing what one of the characters did (pretending to be a dead wife to Steven’s dad) was disgusting.

          • Spicy Shino

            I guess that’s the danger of jumping in at the end of a comment chain. I’m not asking the TOS guys to explain why they hate the show. Hell if I couldn’t understand that after 2+ hours, there’s a clear disconnect.

            I was asking Aythya why she thought the show was sexist/racist because despite being a fan of the show “I don’t really see it.”
            I’m not asking because I want to spread the gospel of Steven U but because despite how much I disagree with the points of the podcast, I also have to admit that a good bit of it is a decent argument.

          • And yet you keep bitching and harping on it. Also you’re a liar, your initial comments had nothing to do with LeighAnn/Aythya

          • Spicy Shino

            But to be fair the wife thing was fucked up, but at the same time they didn’t hide that either.

            Here’s the clip for yourself. Take it as you may.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RItVyRKixIQ

          • Don’t show that clip to this Amber Rosin chick in the comments, the sight of Steven’s Mom being fat as fuck is likely to confuse her…

          • “The disclaimer was a bit of a red flag”

            help i can’t stop laughing

          • Spicy Shino

            It’s cool you could have sense of humor about that.

            But after some thought I realize it’s probably not fair for me to judge you so harshly considering the majority of the podcast was you and the guys venting after torturing yourselves through an entire season of a show you clearly didn’t enjoy.

            And btw they chose to have boobs because they’re like the best body part ever and everyone knows it.

          • Aythya

            “They chose to have boobs because they’re like the best body part ever and everyone knows it.”
            See, that’s an explanation I can work with!

          • Either you’re autistic and can’t grasp sarcasm or you’re terrible at comebacks.

            Either way, I’m still laughing at you. “A disclaimer!? Oh no, offensive material! My fee-fees!”

          • Spicy Shino

            Are you so jaded, you can’t understand the simple concept of sincerity?

            Seeing as you couldn’t understand I’ll explain it in a way your twisted mind can comprehend. Since Aythya was nice enough to vouch for you guys, I actually apologized for insulting you in my first post. And somehow had the impression that you weren’t a complete asshole and this was just a bad day for you.

            I even went further to make a light-hearted joke, simply to show there weren’t any hard feelings. And you responded by calling me autistic. So you know what, I’m done. Go eat shit for all I care.

          • I don’t need you to like me, buck-o. Peace out, kid. Also…

            “Are you so jaded, you can’t understand the simple concept of sincerity?”

            So I was right about the comebacks.

            Also lol at “twisted mind”. I was right about the autism, too!

          • Spicy Shino

            Just gonna leave this here.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeh7D0zz8G0

            Food for thought.

          • Max-Vader

            Deepest lore.

          • You didn’t watch that video and just posted it based on the thumbnail, didn’t you?

            Also Gnoggin is dorky as fuck.

  • Normality

    I feel for you guys.

    No, seriously. I’ve watched several episodes of the show, and you aren’t wrong. The characters are fucking terrible and unlikable. The Gems are the worst protagonists I’ve ever seen in a TV series (and I’ve seen tons of shitty characters, from Panty, to Peter Griffin to post-2000 Homer Simpson, just to name a few), and cause like half of the problems throughout the series (there’s this one episode where they black out the town the show takes place in, which leads to some bullshit about Steven helping the mayor regain his credibility). Steven himself is annoying and I still don’t get why he doesn’t get called out for his actions more than the two-three times they did that. And I find that everyone else is either just as unlikeable or lack any sort of personality (even the one who in my opinion feels the most realistic and likeable, Jenny, feels way underdeveloped and underused).

    The episodes themselves fell like they were rushed into production half of the time, to the point where it feels like they have to rush through the plots towards the end of them. Or don’t even have a plot at all in many cases. That fucking shirt episode is among the worst examples of what I’m talking about-11 minutes of nothing. Which brings me to my next point, the episodes feel like 5 or 22 minute episodes either stretched out or compressed to hell and back. Which isn’t a good thing if your show’s supposed to have a serious plot unless you know what your doing. Something the writers clearly don’t.

    Then you get to the designs, which are beyond simplistic and remind me of formless Play-doh blobs, especially if we’re talking about the fat ones. The lips of most of the females look like botched collagen jobs, Pearl looks like something I drew in high school and Rose just looks out of place (in a show where everyone looks out of place to begin with). And I’ll never get why she needed to be fat when she didn’t need to. And while the animation is fluid it’s also pretty weightless. I mean I know this is a problem with most TV animation due to time and budget, but it reminds me of a blend of Seth MacFarlane and Hiroyuki Imaishi’s work but smoother movement-wise, which unsettles me to no end.

    The music is dreadful and I’ve got no idea how Cartoon Network approved of it. That intro is the worst one I’ve ever heard. And I always skip it whenever I even try watch it.

    On top of that, the show reeks of the worst of social justice tropes, as you mentioned. It’s no wonder Tumblr likes the show. Which I say this to Spicy Shino: Cody and co. make fun of Tumblr because SJWs are the ones who make things worse for everyone and everything in existence. Which makes the backlash over the bronies invading their fandom all the more hilarious as I’m more than certain that several SU fans are themselves Bronies. And at this point, Tumblr should just be nuked off the face of the planet and its founder and Yahoo publicly lynched for letting this fester for as long as it has.

    I’d continue, but I’d be like broken record at this point.

    • The bit about the animation being weightless is brilliant. You’re absolutely right. Something about the animation always bugged me, and I could never put my finger on what it was. That was it, thank you!

      As for nuking tumblr, to be fair the guy that created it now hates and regrets what it’s essentially become (wouldn’t be surprised if that motivated him to sell). And beautifully ironic enough, Yahoo’s CEO is a woman who has been immensely successful and, if I’m not mistaken, hates modern feminism. Drink that irony; everyone in charge of tumblr hates the people on tumblr.

      • Normality

        You know what, I take part of what I said back, the people who run Tumblr shouldn’t be lynched. but a vast majority of their more stupid users should.

        it’d make the world a better place.

  • Kerberous

    http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/932/005/175.png
    Guess you’re not the only ones who noticed the similarity.

    • Haha, holy shit!

    • Spicy Shino

      This is pretty funny but I like the Nappa and Vegeta ones a bit better

  • Aythya

    Until the correct version of the episode goes up, I think the openers that were supposed to play were Steven Universe:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfKUdmTq2MI
    And Darkwing Duck:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_ee6aZObyI

  • Amber Rosin

    just some counter points im writing down is you come to them

    its been hinted at that Pearl is a cultivated loyal drone type gem who’s loyalty was set to Rose.

    Amethyst is basically the adopted child which is why she acts like a cunt most of the time, trust me ive been around the adopted ungrateful cunt type and its spot on.

    Rose actually is not fat, shes an 8 foot fucking giant who wears some poofy clothes

    Steven IS irresponsible, hes a kid, but almost every bad thing he does has lasting consequences and if you pay attention you would understand that he is realizing that those consequences exist, it just took almost dying to realize that.

    the gems picked up pronouns because they lived on earth for thousands of years and its more convenient, if you listen to Peridot who has never been on earth, she never actually uses pronouns, for example when she refers to steven say says “it calls its self the Steven” .

    and the reason they’re all female is because Rebecca Sugar stated that they’re all based off different parts of her personality, as well as Steven in based off her younger brother by the same name

    They cant actually call Ruby and Sapphire lesbian in the show because some countries would ban it from airing and that would really hurt CNs profit, its the same reason Princess Bubblegum and Marceline were in concept going to be lesbian but didn’t. Also its Ruby and Sapphire because real rubies and sapphires are pretty much the same stone with different colors so true love and compatibility or whatever

    Stevonnie isnt a she, he or any of tumblrs made up genders and honestly its probably smooth down there

    the thing about lapis is she was a home world gem, which you can tell because home world gems have a very clear diamond shape in their design since their leaders are diamonds, and the crystal gems have stars in their design since rose had one on her clothes before she died

    Rebecca isnt ashamed of the Ed Edd n Eddy thing, in fact she encourages people to draw cringe worthy stuff because the staff loves to laugh at it, in fact theres a 4chan shitposter that the staff knows by name who usualy makes stuff like Rebecca fingering her self in hell and they just love him, also i think she was like 16 when she drew the Ed Edd n Eddy stuff

    The biggest thing that bothers me is that they’re criticizing it as if it were a completed series where its only season 1 of 3 confirmed seasons.

    also please don’t confuse tumblr as the main fanbase, tumblr claims to love the show but at the same time they’ll run show staff and writers off of tumblr because they did something in an episode they didn’t quite like, or because Rebecca came out saying she was anti feminist.

    and i think the staff member you said “un-ironically checked his privilege” was one of the ones run off by tumblr and was actually joking

    • Max-Vader

      Okay, let’s go over some of these.
      “its been hinted at that Pearl is a cultivated loyal drone type gem who’s loyalty was set to Rose.”
      Even if this was true, so what?
      “Amethyst is basically the adopted child which is why she acts like a
      cunt most of the time, trust me ive been around the adopted ungrateful
      cunt type and its spot on.”
      So the completely unlikable and obnoxious character was intended to be that way. Congratulations.
      “Rose actually is not fat”
      Have you seen her stomach?!
      “Steven IS irresponsible, hes a kid, but almost every bad thing he does has lasting consequences”
      Like when he almost killed everyone with his stupid “together breakfast”? Or when he almost killed everyone with Frybo? Or when he almost killed everyone by giving some magic duplication machine to a psychopath? Or…
      “and if you pay attention you would understand that he is realizing that
      those consequences exist, it just took almost dying to realize that.”
      Yes, if only I had actually paid attention to the show I could have seen what isn’t there. Thanks, oh condescending one.
      “Stevonnie isnt a she, he or any of tumblrs made up genders and honestly its probably smooth down there”
      That would make it an even shittier “fusion” than it already is.
      “Rebecca isnt ashamed of the Ed Edd n Eddy thing, in fact she encourages people to draw cringe worthy stuff because the staff loves to laugh at it, in fact theres a 4chan shitposter that the staff knows by name who usualy makes stuff like Rebecca fingering her self in hell and they just
      love him”
      …words fail me.
      “The biggest thing that bothers me is that they’re criticizing it as if
      it were a completed series where its only season 1 of 3 confirmed
      seasons.”
      Are you fucking kidding me? You need to wait for a series to be finished before you can criticise it? If the entire first season is absolute shit, what would it matter how the rest turns out?

      • Amber Rosin

        “Even if this was true, so what?”

        that’s about the whole “a pearl isn’t a gem!” problem

        “Have you seen her stomach?!”

        Does this look like a fat woman to you?
        http://i.imgur.com/c4UF0P5.png

        “Yes, if only I had actually paid attention to the show I could have seen what isn’t there. Thanks, oh condescending one.”

        The beginning of him realizing that his actions have consequences begin in Marble Madness where he carelessly shows him self to Peridot who reports them to the other home world gems, and ends with Political Power where before then he knows the crystal gems are hiding something but he thinks its just another gem thing that they can handle until the end of the episode where they tell him exactly what happens, and he faces those consequences in The Return and Jailbreak with more on the way

        “That would make it an even shittier “fusion” than it already is.”

        Literally how? Stevonnie is 50% a female, 25% a male and 25% a gem, there is very little you can do to explain that biologically

        “Are you fucking kidding me? You need to wait for a series to be finished before you can criticise it? If the entire first season is absolute shit, what would it matter how the rest turns out?”

        there was a lot of talk about how stupid Lapis fusing with Jasper to imprison her was stupid because they would just split later and she wouldn’t be able to keep her prisoner any more as if that were the end of that plot point and nothing else is going to happen with it even though in literally two episodes there’s going to be a two parter with the titles Raising Tides and Crashing Skies which one can imagine has to do with exactly that
        Steven Universe isn’t like muh Japanese anime where the world can be almost destroyed at the end of each season but everyone’s back in class the next episode, its one whole story with seasons only being a term for categorization. the city is still damaged, there’s pieces of the ship all over the damn place and there’s a green gem running around doing who knows what

        • Max-Vader

          “that’s about the whole “a pearl isn’t a gem!” problem”
          How does that address that at all?
          “Does this look like a fat woman to you?”
          http://tinyurl.com/nzwfp67
          Yeah. If not, then she has really deformed arms.
          “Marble Madness”
          And yet he still gets a pat on the back for fucking up in new and spectacular ways. It’s also nice to see that it took 44 episodes and tons of “I almost killed everyone, oops” for him to realize anything whatsoever.
          “Literally how? Stevonnie is 50% a female, 25% a male and 25% a gem, there is very little you can do to explain that biologically”
          Disregarding the fact that the character is obviously a woman based on her physical appearance, it’s called a hermaphrodite. Makes more sense than some asexual blob.
          “there was a lot of talk about how stupid Lapis fusing with Jasper to imprison her was stupid because they would just split later”
          Actually we said it was nonsensical that they couldn’t split apart immediately.
          “Steven Universe isn’t like muh Japanese anime where the world can be almost destroyed at the end of each season but everyone’s back in class the next episode”
          Funny, because the lasting consequences of almost all episodes are fuck and all.

          • Amber Rosin

            “How does that address that at all?”

            There was a lot of “How can Pearl be a Gem if real pearls aren’t gems? Thats just bad writing” but as i said its hinted at that Pearl is a cultivated drone Gem, not a real Gem.

            “Yeah. If not, then she has really deformed arms”

            Thats an edited image of when she was pregnant
            http://i.imgur.com/rAuYs8p.png

            on a side note considering you got that from the wiki, but there was a lot of “the wiki says this, the wiki says that” the wiki is absolutely non official and run by fans, there were lyric for a crappy fan Peridot rap addition to Stronger Than You on there for a month or two after it happened.

            “And yet he still gets a pat on the back for fucking up in new and spectacular ways. It’s also nice to see that it took 44 episodes and tons of “I almost killed everyone, oops” for him to realize anything whatsoever.”

            The Gems are like Stevens over protective parents, they want to protect him from the negative consequences without thinking about if hes able to handle them on his own which at the end of the finale they realize he can

            “Disregarding the fact that the character is obviously a woman based on her physical appearance, it’s called a hermaphrodite. Makes more sense than some asexual blob.”

            i guess its possible since fusions are based off of Hindu gods which were hermaphrodites but the part gem thing throws it off, im not even sure how steven works

            “Actually we said it was nonsensical that they couldn’t split apart immediately”

            It was Lapis’s will power that kept them together long enough, and Lapis is probably more than capable enough to hold Jasper under water when they split

            “Funny, because the lasting consequences of almost all episodes are fuck and all.”

            The Gems probably dealt with the majority of the back lash from the public against Steven as over protective parent would, and as for the public not panicking over the magic gems stuff and gem monsters, The Gems have been on earth for thousands of years and Gem magic and monsters aren’t unheard of to regular people

          • “There was a lot of “How can Pearl be a Gem if real pearls aren’t gems? Thats just bad writing” but as i said its hinted at that Pearl is a cultivated drone Gem, not a real Gem.”

            Pearls still aren’t gems. Cultivated drone gem is still a gem. Pearls aren’t gems.

            “Thats an edited image of when she was pregnant”

            Should we then link to the episodes where her fat ass is present, on screen, in motion? Or are you so ignorant of biology you’re unaware that pregnancy doesn’t cause your arms to expand to match Honey Boo Boo’s mom. The fetus grows in your belly, not your elbows.

            “The Gems are like Stevens over protective parents, they want to protect him from the negative consequences without thinking about if hes able to handle them on his own which at the end of the finale they realize he can”

            How does that refute what Max is saying at all?! Steven nearly gets people killed and is never admonished for it. And the story treats him like he’s still a lovable hero despite it. Putting people’s lives in danger generally gets you more than a “no, bad boy! Bad!” from people who aren’t sociopaths. Like the Gems. Who knowingly enslaved a sentient being to use as a living computer.

            “It was Lapis’s will power that kept them together long enough, and Lapis is probably more than capable enough to hold Jasper under water when they split”

            This is never stated in the series, nor is forcing a fusion to stay via willpower alluded to, as far as I remember. In fact, it’s more implied that the fusion eventually takes over and erases the original personalities (which makes for a nice plothole in regards to Ruby and Sapphire), so Malachite’s imprisonment continues to make no sense. On multiple levels. Like, here’s a good one; if Lapis could will some shackles into existence, why is it Jasper couldn’t will them out?

            And how the hell would a weak-ass waif keep Transsexual Raditz sealed underwater on her own power when we know Jasper was stronger than she was?!

            “The Gems probably dealt with the majority of the back lash from the public against Steven as over protective parent would, and as for the public not panicking over the magic gems stuff and gem monsters, The Gems have been on earth for thousands of years and Gem magic and monsters aren’t unheard of to regular people”

            You seem to be missing the fact that Steven has nearly gotten people killed. His dumb ass has been a sliver away from being, at the VERY least, an accessory to murder on MANY occasions.

      • Spicy Shino

        Wow this list just reminded me of how times I just didn’t give a fuck, while listening. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss2hULhXf04

        I apologize if this seems like a half-assed response, but if it doesn’t involve the show proper (and no that doesn’t include BTS bullshit) I don’t really care.

        I didn’t notice the stuff about Pearl though, I don’t get too deep into fan theories.

        Wow a lot of hate for Amethyst. I know the chick has issues but damn. Personally I figured she cares about as much as everyone else, but conveys that poorly due to a lot of self-loathing and generally considering herself a bit of an outsider even amongst the gems. I could be right, I could be wrong let’s just move on.

        Rose is fat?! Rose isn’t fat! Who fucking cares?! Next topic.

        Steven has fucked up. But at the same time, he’s obviously trying and hell he’s even helped on quite a few occasions and is getting better. The Season Finale made that pretty clear and the following episode even showed how much that experience shifted the way he sees everything else.

        Technically other gems have used pronouns. Peridot said “it” but Lapis clearly called Steven “he” and Jasper even referred to Rose as “her”. I just figured that gems generally identify as female but are technically genderless as their current form is whatever they personally choose. The only exception being the one gem born through sex, Steven.

        Though I seriously hope this gets glossed over, Stevonnie is probably both… Mainly since her(his?) wardrobe and features were simply a mishmash of what they already had…and just gonna leave that there. But on a lighter note, their wedding will definitely be an interesting one.

        Lapis was a home world gem but so was everyone else besides (Jasper?, Amethyst, & Steven) And not sure if there’s more than one diamond either. Yellow’s the only one stated and the mean gem on the mural seemed to be working alone. (Though it is up to debate) Also we haven’t seen other Quartzs either. (And no Steven doesn’t count he’s part Rose)

        The Ed,Edd,&Eddy thing is solely in regard to Rebecca Sugar. I know she made the show but I couldn’t give 2 shits about her personal life. Also it’s a damn cartoon CTFO.

        Yeah it doesn’t matter the show isn’t over, but a review of “absolute” ANYTHING on an objective medium is simply misguided and unprofessional. I know my arguments are less impactful because I constantly use cop-out phrases like “Seemingly,” “Personally,” and “In my Opinion.” But that’s because I’m simply acknowledging them for what they are FUCKING OPINIONS. Regardless of how highly you see yourself or how extensively you’ve researched whatever your fucking point is, someone will look at the same thing and see it completely differently and they have full right to.

        Wow I got off track…seasons. It’s still open-ended, explanations are coming, eh…closing remark.

        • Max-Vader

          “Wow you guys are dicks.”
          “Wow this list just reminded me of how times I just didn’t give a fuck, while listening.”
          Heh.

          Also, I don’t know why you listen to things you don’t care about and then type long responses, but oh well.

          • Spicy Shino

            Well I apologize if my wall of text seemed rather long for someone who doesn’t care. My point was that there were a few parts I gave no personal weight, I wouldn’t have wasted so much time simply to irritate you pal.

            But to answer your question, I listened to things I didn’t care about because I may have missed a direct critique of the show had I skipped anything. Sorry if my long response didn’t make that obvious.

  • Kill Me

    I love when people act like their opinions represent fact.

    “Now, find out why The Other Side really is the only show on the network
    you can trust, as the boys from TOS utterly dismantle the series, and
    prove that Steven Universe is demonstrably terrible!”

    Man you guys sound full of yourselves.